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Newshawks: Dana Larsen and Randy White on Now TV
Newshawks with Pot-TV
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46 min |
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13 Nov 2003 |
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8.80 (20 votes) |
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2766 |
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Right Wing Prohibitionist and Christian Zealot, Doug Kooy is back pointing the finger of fire and brimstone at the marijuana scapegoat. Still whimpering from the whoop-ass he recieved from Marc Emery and David Malmo-Levine, he brings in the most vocal voice for continued prohibition in Canada, American Ass Kisser Alliance MP Randy White, (known for his connections to Narconon and Scientology) to tag team on Dana Larsen, Editor of Cannabis Culture and Leader of the Marijuana Party. But the cannabis flag flies "high" as Dana slaps the drug warrior duo with facts and reason. Not to be missed. Be sure to write Doug and Randy and tell them what you think of their rhetoric at the addresses provided on the show page. And also post those letters in the review section for this show! Pot-TV
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Re: Newshawks: Dana Larsen and Randy White on Now TV
mikeearl,
Sat Nov 22 19:55:46 2003
Dana, pay no attention to this rizzstix asshole. I thought you did a terrific job, and I think you are a knowledgeable and articulate representative of the cannabis culture. Look, rizzdix (or whatever your real name is), in case you havent noticed the cannabis culture includes people from all economic classes, races, religions, and nationalities. We are many faces. Marc Emery is one face, Dana Larsen is another, Richard Cowen is another. And I cant heap enough praise on all of these guys (and gals) for putting their asses on the line day after day, risking huge economic penalties and even prison. Yet while Dana and Marc and Chris and DML and the others risk all for the movement that we so passionately care about, you sit there skulking in the ether, hiding behind your keyboard and made-up screen name, casting stones at the very people who are trying make the world better for you.
And as for that nonsense about this not being a debate what do you think this is, your high school debate class? Maybe you were drunk on cheap beer at the time and werent paying attention, but let me point something out to you. Dana made the most important point that could be made concerning the issue of marijuana prohibition, and he made that point over and over. That point being that it is grossly IMMORAL to throw people in jail for using marijuana or for that matter, any substance. Dana was championing the notion of a free society. Maybe you didnt catch that. I did.
And rizzstix, think of this. Imagine having to go on television, by yourself, to face a couple of drug warriors like Randy White and that shit-for-brains Doug Tooy. If you think you can do a better job, then by all means, go get your fucking PhD, put on your suit and tie in short, make yourself look like the very people who want to throw you in jail and then go on TV and face off with these prohibitionist pigs.
But, Rizzstix, I tell you what. I thought Dana did such a great job that Im putting $25 in mail to support Pot-TV. If you do the same, Ill forgive you on this one.
Re: Newshawks: Dana Larsen and Randy White on Now TV
Rizzstix,
Sat Nov 22 15:29:10 2003
No offense, but I don't necessarily think Dana Larsen is the right man to be the figurehead of our movement. I think rather a doctor or maby a politlcal leader like Jack Layton to give some sort of physical reference to what I'm thinking of. Dana Larsen is the head of a magazine, it's what he's good at, no one's saying he should be an orator or that he has to cary the movement on his back.
I thought the debate was horrible in general. Just to give some points of my views:
-The debate wasn't really a debate at all. A debate needs two distinct sides and a moderator. Dana's part of the debate consisted of two republicans (seen as having wisdom and respect in their respective fields), and who is essentially an upper-class journalist. This just isn't a fair setup and provides no grounds for an actual debate, this was just an onslaught of attempted humiliation.
-All three involved in the debate got off-subject way to much. There were constant tangents about things like heroin and cocaine, and questions pertaining solely to subjective things like morals and such. Let the Herion and cocaine addicts fight for themselves, we only want pot legalized, we're not trying to fight the drug war on our own. Morals are to be decided personally and collectively, they are to be compromised upon, not decided by a central government.
-A point should have been made about taking control of the government, and not letting it have control of you. "Is this not a democracy? Do we constitute population control???"~ should have been said. This isn't only a pro-pot movement, this is a movement toward a government that's mroe for the people.
-There are alot of other legal herbs that effect you in alot more ways than marijuana, and they are legal (to give an example, Salvia Divinorium).
-Both sides of the debate were asking to many "what if's?". There were to many subjective arguements that led to getting off topic, you need to stick more to the facts.
-If we wanted to talk subjectively, we could say that while the old-Republicans sit quietly in their upper-class homes, we represent all of the classes below them and make up the majority. But wer'e not talking supbectivly. STAY ON TOPIC.
We need another debate, one that's fair, and we need to be represented by a figurehead holding a doctorate. We have to play their ballgame to gain some recognition.
Peace~ the riz
Re: Newshawks: Dana Larsen and Randy White on Now TV
CaptainTylor,
Sat Nov 15 14:02:00 2003
Nice round 2 Dana! Maybe Doug will get enough pressure to continue the topic on future shows.
I do want to point out that even though Doug Kooy appears to be arrogant and biased at times, it is not the person who is at fault, but rather the principles and ignorace that has been spread from a few evil men that know the truth but wish to destroy it in the name of money and power. I doubt Doug has any kind of hurtful agenda to anyone, he has just been blasted like the rest of the people in power with skewed studies (like tar being higher in pot, but only because of the shitty bunk leaves, stems, and seeds the evil ones push for study rather than quality flowers) and sob stories from mothers and teachers who are ignorant themselves of the true reasons why their students are failing or dying.
Lets all treat Doug like a ignorant soul that is need of teaching and reasoning rather than making hurtful remarks about him. What better way to show the nation who speaks the truth by letting Doug and the like become angered while we answer back with understanding and kindness.
Doug is still a hard-hearted Jew, time for him to be an enlighted part of Christ! discuss this show in the CC forums >
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"I Love That High", So did Jesus!
Aloha Doug,
You seem to forget you said I Love that High in regards to your own use of marijuana. Ask yourself why? Perhaps you first found Jesus when you were as high as he was on the kneh-bosem anointing oils and incenses of his day. Either way, you advocate putting others in jail for doing as you did yourself. Judge not lest yee be judged. How come you think you dont have to pay a debt to society but others should?
In your latest pogrom against cannabis using individuals you reacted to Dana about humanities right to use plants. For someone who claims to have been a Christian Minister, you are certainly not all that aware of the content of the mainstay of your cult, the Bible. Here is Genesis 1.
"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat
Pretty straight forward. But you said, that men like you have been given wisdom to tell the rest of us what to do. Pretty presumptuous on your part, claiming wisdom above the Lords. The only plants the Lord prohibited were the two special trees of Eden. Perhaps you are suggesting that cannabis is one of these? To you the Devils weed and gift of the viper, and to us the Tree of Life, whose leaves are for the healing of the nations. What makes you so sure your right this time? You yourself said I love that high. Maybe you were right then.
Here is an article that ran in The Sunday London Times regarding my own study into the Bible by Prof. Carl Ruck of Boston University. Variations have appeared in virtually every major paper in the world. Watch as the god you use as the pillar of your own self righteousness is turned into one of the potheads you hate.
Cheers,
Chris Bennett
www.forbiddenfruitpublishing.com
www.pot-tv.net
www.entheogenesis.ca
Was there a whiff of cannabis about Jesus?
Claims of drug use by biblical figures surprisingly have susbtance,
says Professor Carl Ruck
Was Jesus a Stoner? is the mischievous title of an article about the use of cannabis in ancient Judaism in next month's High Times, a pro-cannabis magazine. Its author, Chris Bennett, likes to shock. He is the host of Burning Shiva, a show on Canada's Pot-TV, and an advocate for the medical use and decriminalisation of marijuana.
Bennett first looked at the use of drugs in religion two years ago in his book Sex, Drugs, Violence, and the Bible. He postulates that Jesus's ministry was fuelled by mind-altering substances, that he may have used cannabis-based oils to heal eye and skin diseases and that his very name - Christ - derives from being anointed with cannabis-enriched oil.
His politics and television career might make it tempting to dismiss him but what Bennett says makes perfect sense. Over the centuries drugs have been used by virtually all religions. Why not Christianity?
In ancient times cannabis was widely cultivated throughout the Middle East. It grows like a weed and provides nourishing seed, which is also a good source of fibre used to make rope.
People certainly knew of its pleasurable effects; it would have been impossible to harvest it without becoming ecstatic as the drug would be absorbed through the skin. And as long ago as 1935 a Slovakian linguist identified the plant known as "fragrant cane" in the English Bible as flowering cannabis, a link since accepted by some Jewish authorities.
Ancient people were fascinated by herbs and their healing powers and knew much more about them than we do; at least about mixing herbs to release their potency.
Ancient wines were always fortified, like the "strong wine" of the Old Testament, with herbal additives: opium, datura, belladonna, mandrake and henbane. Common incenses, such as myrrh, ambergris and frankincense are psychotropic; the easy availability and long tradition of cannabis use would have seen it included in the mixtures. Modern medicine has looked into using cannabis as a pain reliever and in treating multiple sclerosis. It may well be that ancient people knew, or believed, that cannabis had healing power.
Much of their knowledge, passed down through an oral tradition, has been lost and to some extent it is the modern prejudice against drugs that has stopped us looking for it. Revulsion against drugs and the hippie culture even led to the term "entheogen" being coined to describe a psychotropic substance used in religious rituals.
Entheogen comes from the Greek entheos (meaning "god-inspired within") and the word is now commonly employed in English and European languages to discuss sacramental foods used by shamans (mystic or visionary priests) to achieve spiritual ecstasy.
So what of the early Christians? At the time they were evolving, they had to compete with other religions of the Roman empire. The strongest of those was Mithraism, imported from Persia, which exists today as Zoroastrianism.
Its sacrament, Haoma, was virtually identical to what we know of soma, in Brahmanism. Worshipped as a god, soma was a strange plant without leaves or roots that needed little light and induced religious ecstasy. It was most likely amanita muscaria: a magic mushroom. In ancient Rome sharing the Haoma cemented the bond of brotherhood of emperors, bureaucrats and soldiers. Pagan Greek celebrations at the sanctuary of Eleusis, meanwhile, included a visionary experience for a crowd of 1,000 people, from drinking a potion made from a fungus that grows on wheat and produces an effect similar to LSD.
So, did Jesus use cannabis? I think so. The word Christ does mean "the anointed one" and Bennett contends that Christ was anointed with chrism, a cannabis-based oil, that caused his spiritual visions. The ancient recipe for this oil, recorded in Exodus, included over 9lb of flowering cannabis tops (known as kaneh-bosem in Hebrew), extracted into a hin (about 11 pints) of olive oil, with a variety of other herbs and spices. The mixture was used in anointing and fumigations that, significantly, allowed the priests and prophets to see and speak with Yahweh.
Residues of cannabis, moreover, have been detected in vessels from Judea and Egypt in a context indicating its medicinal, as well as visionary, use. Jesus is described by the apostle Mark as casting out demons and healing by the use of this holy chrism. Earlier, from the time of Moses until the later prophet Samuel, holy anointing oil was used by the shamanic Levite priesthood to receive the "revelations of the Lord". The chosen ones were drenched in this potent cannabis oil.
Early Christian documents found in Eygpt, thought to be a more accurate record than the New Testament, portray Jesus as an ecstatic rebel sage who preached enlightenment through rituals involving magical plants. Indeed, Bennett goes so far as to say that Jesus was probably not born the messiah but acquired the title when he was anointed with cannabis oil by John the Baptist. The baptism in the Jordan was probably to wash away the oil after it had done its work. The early Christians fought hard for followers in the ancient world, recognising the similarity of their own "foreign" god and his eucharistic meal to the Greek gods. Various sects and even the elite in what would eventually become the Roman Catholic church probably used the full range of available entheogens for baptism, ordination and the eucharistic meal.
What we now call the host might have been more than just bread. There are indications that early Christians shared magic mushrooms - and the spiritual visions and ecstasies they occasioned - as their eucharistic meal. A 4th-century mosaic discovered at a basilica in Aquileia in northern Italy depicts baskets of mushrooms. Why? This wasn't a restaurant. Could the "red mushrooms" have been the ritual meal?
Eating bread and sharing wine together was, and remains, at the heart of the Christian ritual. We'll never know exactly what Jesus and his disciples consumed at the Last Supper, but as they believed they were drinking the blood of Christ we must accept it was - if not actually hallucinatory - at least fortified by God.
Carl Ruck is professor of classics at Boston University
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