Khai
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4/23/01 06:04 PM
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Organic regimen
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Ok Guys Heres my deal. Ive got 6 plants in peat, coir and spongerock I added a little bonemeal 4-12-0. Theyve been growin for 10 days started from seed. Ive been adding kelp extract .10-.10-1.5 at 1/4 stregth. I just got my bat and seabird guano in the mail and Im curious if someone can give me a hand on dosage rates and such. I got Mexican bat guano[10-2-0], Indonesian bat guano[0-13-0], Jamaican Bat guano[1-10-0] and Peruvian seabird guano[11-13-3]. Can I mix these together or should I alternate them between waterings? I assume I wouldnt use the high P until flowering? Alternate between the others during veg? And foliar feed with kelp extract every 3 weeks?
Also would it be nesscesary to cut the recommended dosage rates for any of these seeing as they are kinda young.
Does this sound about right? I would love to hear from 4free on this one. How about it bro?
Khai
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4free
(superposter)
4/26/01 11:12 AM
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Re: Organic regimen
[Post#: 121434
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Hey Khai, hope that the moonshiner#13 sees this, because he is an expert on these types of forumula's and he will be able to help you better than I.
I'm thinking your going a little "gung ho" on the feeding considering your seedlings are only ten days old; be carefull not to burn the little girls. Be carefull with seaweed kelp because a very small amount will go a long way! I personally only used 1mL per 2L of nutrient solution and now that they are in flowering I have been using 2-3mL per 4 Litres of nutrient solution. I only use the bat guanno during the flowering stage because I have utilized worm castings and fish emulsion for the entire vegative cycle with great success. I highly recommend worm castings but I have found starting seedlings directly in a worm castings mix can burn the little fellows so always be carefull when they are youngsters. What kind of kelp is it...not micro nutes? Look into seaweed kelp - a source for all 16 micro nutrients. You need to look into a solid source for nitrogen which is most essential during vegative stages IMO. Alaskan fish emulsion I have used for years with great sucess 5-2-2, and there are many other producst that could fill this void, unless of course that kelp stuff will be good enough...moonshiner, where are you bro?
That seaweed guanno is relatively high in Nirtrogen so using it during the first 2 or 3 weeks of flowering is a great idea IMO. You could use a combination of the bat guanno and the bird shit for the first two or three few weeks IMO, for good results. A lot of people cut back there Nitrogen to early in flowering and as a result there plants are not as healthy as they could be IMHO. I would recommend using half a tbls. spoon (per 4 litres or gallon) of each for the first few feedings in flowering, and then slowly increase the dosage to one tbls. spoon of each. By the 3rd or 4th week of flowering, you will want to cut back totally on the bird shit and begin using the bat shit in larger doses. Right now my plants are just 2.5 weeks into flower and I'm already feeding them 2 tbls. spoons of bat guanno per 4 litres of nutrient solution; forgiving stuff and the plants are thriving.
Hope this helped you out some, and if there is anything else specific you are needing to know feel, free to ask. I'm sure some other organic gardners can exacberate on what I have already mentioned since I'm a little hazy on your kelp. Peace, goodluck, and good growing!
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4free
(superposter)
4/26/01 11:20 AM
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Re: Organic regimen
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Oh dude, I'm super retarded, sorry about my shitty reading skills...that mexican bat guanno should be great for the vegative stages, since its very high in N. I would start of in small doses as you know, and increase as the plants need for these nutrients increases.
I never foilar feed unless there is obvious signs of a nutrient deficiency and the plants well being is threatened. I think foilar feeding is a good way to cause mold, and I feel that there is residues left on the leaves which block the stomata from carrying out photosythesis as efficiently as possible. Besides this, foilar feeding with some of these procucts will create an eternal stench. I spray my plants once a month, with distilled water (pH6.5 after adjustment) in order to rinse the leaves of any dust or residues, but personally I think foilar feeding blows and can lead to complicated problems. Never spray your plants when a HID is on because the water refracts the light at oblique angles and this can cause actual surface burns on your plants.
Sorry, if I'm rambling on...I'm sooo tired right now and I should go back to bed! Peace.
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moonshiner#13
(superposter)
4/26/01 05:24 PM
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Re: Organic regimen
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Khai,
Have you checked your PM's?...moonshiner
"Like Louis Armstrong played the trumpet I'll hit that bong and break ya off somthin'"-C.H.
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moonshiner#13
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4/26/01 05:28 PM
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Re: Organic regimen
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High 4free,
sounds to me that your no organic slouch yourself!...peace...moonshiner
"Like Louis Armstrong played the trumpet I'll hit that bong and break ya off somthin'"-C.H.
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kernalkozmic
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5/1/01 03:56 PM
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Re: Organic regimen
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HOLY bird shit batman.......you must be suppling the greater northwest.
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