Dana Larsen
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2/4/01 02:07 PM
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Re: HIGH TIMES REEKS
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And in response to that article, here's a letter by Mari Kane, which is found here:
http://www.salon.com/letters/daily/2000/07/24/dope/
Thanks for running the article "Pot Shots." Knowing most all the guys mentioned, I would have to weigh in on the side of Cannabis Culture, possessors of much more integrity than the crowd at High Times. Here is my experience with High Times:
Predatory at their core, High Times was successful in putting out of business my low-budget, highly respected journal, HempWorld, by launching a glossy, cheesy version called Hemp Times. Backed by High Times and allegedly using profits that were supposed to benefit NORML, Hemp Times made it a practice to give away much of its advertising to hemp companies in exchange for product they sold in the Planet Hemp boutique. Its editorial content focused almost exclusively on its advertisers.
One year after the three other North American hemp publications went under, Hemp Times finally drowned in its own swill, leaving the hemp industry with no all-industrial publication. Pity, they could have bought HempWorld when I offered it to them in 1995, but being the way they are, they decided to compete rather than cooperate.
Overall, High/Hemp Times promoted a type of premature greed and avarice within the young and fragile hemp industry, while causing much divisiveness. High Times could be easily described as the Microsoft of the cannabis publishing business.
Mari Kane
Former publisher of HempWorld
Current editor at Buyside
Dana Larsen
Editor, Cannabis Culture Magazine
ccmag@cannabisculture.com
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activist1
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2/4/01 03:44 PM
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HIGH TIMES REEKS
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The reason to tellthe truth about Low Times is the same reason to tell the truth about cops and drug war pols- I want to legalize and anybody who hurts that hurts me!
We can't go around pointing fingers at the straights and cops and hypocrites when we have liars and conn artists in our own midst who pretend to be "the magazine of the counterculture" when actually they are the "corporation who ripped off NORML, F'ed Forcade's dream, and screwedthe counterculture."
I'm sure that Haggard and all the other boyz at HT are seeing what we say here and on overgrow, and they are noticing that their ragis getting no good publicitywhile Emery is being rightfully praised becuz he keeps working harder and harder to wake up the world to pot.Im just waiting for one of those lowlifes to get some balls and go head to head with emery or brady or dana on pottv and then we will see who's the real activists and who are the corporate whores.
Low Times has deepdark secrets and people are gonna keep on them until they change their ways or go out of business. If Low Times stops selling fake trash buds to kids and pays me back the money they owe me I might go ezier on them.
By the way I hear that Conde is goingto do the Hemp festival again this year in the same place in Eugene!!!!
To all who reject Low Times, I salute you.
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stonie
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2/4/01 08:24 PM
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Re: HIGH TIMES REEKS
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there is good articles in the mag.at times but too much bullshit in there.need more grow sections.
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4free
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2/4/01 08:35 PM
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Re: HIGH TIMES REEKS
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It's to bad tree's get turned into useless crap like the HT of today.
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puresativa
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2/5/01 02:46 AM
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Re: HIGH TIMES REEKS
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Thanks for the info on Hempfest Activist1. So you have heard that Bill Conde will have another Hempfest again in 2001? That would be so great!!! Seattle's gets more people, WHEE gets more advertisement, but Hempfest is where the PEACE AND POT people gather.
TMorgan: Understand where you are coming from. You do not like the HT bashing. Okay, some of the bashing is crude. However I think your comment about 'Little whiny girls' was also an uncalled for bashing. Nobody I have heard comment is complaining about meaningless things, like the cover of HT or their hairstyles of their models.
These people are complaining about lies, ripp offs, and sabatoge HT staff have done to individual people, other hemp activist/product organizations, and the general public.
The truth is on the Hemp activists, our side. Therefore we must expose ALL truth as much and widely as possible. It does not matter if the lie comes from the US President, the DEA, or High Times. We NEED the general public to understand the truth. Any lie, by anyone on either side blocks the truth and hurts us all.
HT, in my opinion, has found their money 'niche' in undereducated, angry, urban youth. Enough of these people will buy HT, fake buds, and the silly conspiracy politics to keep the money flowing in. I do still subscribe to HT, only for the bud picts and the occasional good grow article.
And, in my opinion, I think they do care about we say, think and do. After splitting with Bill Conde after WHEE1, Bill and CC went on the to hold THREE more HEMPFESTS that were bigger and better than their WHEE2,or 3.
They also know that HT and NORML have been totally useless in the hemp legalization movement. HT staff has been forced into only reporting on what the REAL ACTIVISTS are doing, mostly on the WEST Coast.
Mark, Dana, and CC staff and supporters are changing the world more and faster than HT ever tryed too. I am sure they notice.
Grow Kind, Be Kind
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Slothbear
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2/5/01 06:12 AM
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Re: HIGH TIMES REEKS
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gethealthy= The old creator killed himself?! I dont know if thats a good thing or a bad thing?!
TMorgan+ Well aside from the fact if we started a magazine, we wouldnt have near the credability that C does, just be creating some extra competition for CC (even though it would only sell like 5 copies globaly) and we would just be going over what CC says in there magazine. If I ever made a marijuana magazine of any kind, I would fashion it just like CC because CC is the greatest magazine. Everything from there lay-outs on the page to the way the articles are written to the extremely helpful grow articles, and the famous AskEd.
BTW, I bought the latest version of CC yesterday (better late then ever, tough finding a place that stocks it..) and noticed that I was one of the people he mentioned for the 'Your the Expert'! I dont know if I got the right answer, or if they just put the names of the people who wrote an answer and sent it, but im in there! (im 'Yannick'!).
So anyways, CC rules, HT doesnt. I like my marijuana news shaken, not stirred. And an olive in it. Yes, like the kind they sell at the Safeway:)
A rock star without cool cloths is just a jock with an identity crisis
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gethealthy
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2/5/01 08:04 AM
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Re: HIGH TIMES REEKS
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Slothbear, I guess Hightimes creator Tom Forcade was prone to bits of depression,and in 1978 committed suicide.
source: HT nov.99 pg.11
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Slothbear
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2/5/01 07:07 PM
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Re: HIGH TIMES REEKS
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Well hell, that explains it right there...
I will admit, the occasional grow article can be informing. I can admit, the occasional bud shot can be mouth watering. I can even admit that some of the incompetant no-talent ass clowns working there may show the occasional sign of intelligence, but the majority of things they print just pisses me off...mainly those crap legal buds they sell! I cant explain why, there is just this thing inside me that gets so pissed off when I think of it...
Anyways, this thread seems to be getting a bit old, and I seem to have made my point, or atleast had my complaints read, which is good. High times bad. Be cool and dont smoke crack;)
A rock star without cool cloths is just a jock with an identity crisis
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twistinjays
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2/5/01 07:51 PM
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Re: HIGH TIMES REEKS
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Slothbear, in regards to your signature, would a rock star wearing a t-shirt advertising another cool band qualify as 'cool clothes'? Just wondering because that seems to be a popular thing for rock stars to wear.
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foam
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2/5/01 08:53 PM
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Re: HIGH TIMES REEKS
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Well Cervantes is good and the pics are good but many people think that Steven Hagar is and asshole, and after the comments in the Salon.com article you can include me in the many people who think..
in a darkend room we all look the same..
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