hydrohippy2000
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3/8/01 09:53 AM
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NL#5 seedling-RED STEM ?
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The 1st seedling to sprout now has a redish stem and the leaves are slightly curled under kind of like a lily blossom,it is a NL#5.others don't(yet) show any signs of this.Started germ on 3/3,this one came up on 3/5. Using distilled H2O,with 10 drops superthrive & 1/8th tsp fish emulsion per gal..under 80w flors. temp=60* RH=35% in grow area.I am using a dome w/2 penny size holes cut for vents (due to low RH)on heated germ tray...temp inside about 80*. also have one "sprout"that is just a firm arched stem going up and back into RW.I put the seeds into RW w/root tip up as per Marc's instruction sheet,maybe this one was too shallow.Should I help this one by carefully scraping away RW from original planting site ? Thanks for any help/advise you can give... PEACE...
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Simon
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3/8/01 02:25 PM
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Re: NL#5 seedling-RED STEM ?
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Don't worry too much. I've only ever grown NL#5 and they always seem to have red stems. Maybe we're both doing something wrong but mine always turn out just fine.
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Overdrive
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3/8/01 02:46 PM
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Re: NL#5 seedling-RED STEM ?
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Hey Hydro..Always put root tip pointing down.Are you sure you read right??I think because you put the tip up,this arch you are talking about is the root growing out of rockwool,turning itself around and back into the rockwool.Don't disturb it now.It should pop through providing you don't have it packed too tight.As far as red stems,I've had lots come up with a reddish color to the stem.This usually disappears as the seedling matures.When it's time to remove the dome,do it for short periods,sort of a hardening off.Once sprouts are up watch you don't keep things too wet,warm and humid.Could lead to damping off.Let rockwool dry out some.Don't let it go bonedry though.Removing the dome for short periods will help along with the holes you've made for vent.IMHO..PEACE..
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hydrohippy2000
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3/8/01 10:56 PM
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Re: NL#5 seedling-RED STEM ?
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Hi,Overdrive.thanks again for the help.I've got the instruction sheets right here..Quote:"Plant the seed with the root tip up.The root tip will reverse and grow down into the medium and push the seedling up through the surface.":end quote. Maybe this is to make the root stronger,a work out if you will.Anyway I've already fixed the problem(it had been like that for 24hrs).I sterilized a jewlers screwdriver and carefully scraped away the RW from original hole,expected to find seed husk.tryed to ease it out only to find main root with hairs intact.under that I saw bright green!!! The seedling had grown directly under the root.I scraped away the RW from the other end freeing the entire plant.I enlarged the hole (width and depth) so I could replant the root without damaging the fine hairs.I then gently scraped in and lightly repacked the RW around it.The whole thing looked like a curly fry,had to prop its head up on a grow rock.Just got home from work and I'm happy to say it's doing fine.7 of 12 up so far,all nice and healthy looking.Thanks for the tips on the dome thing, can't get that type of service from a growers guide book.I read this online so called "guide" last night and found myself laughing at most of the guys'directions,he must of been stoned when he wrote it.Either that or he's a fed writing like a stoner and giving out Really BAD info.I'll go back there so I can post a warning for all the newbies here.Thanks again...PEACE...
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hydrohippy2000
(newbie)
3/8/01 11:10 PM
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Re: NL#5 seedling-RED STEM ?
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Bummer,spent the last hour or so trying to find that BAD grow guide to no avail...must of deleated it.Any way if anyone comes accross some stoner telling you to "keep your flos 18"above seedlings",talking about "good dope",and other assorted rambelings...read it just for a good laugh,and come back to this forum. I thought it was from a link at either HighTimes,or Highsociety,but couldn't find it...Maybe just as well...PEACE...
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WinnipegDankster
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3/21/01 05:33 PM
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Re: NL#5 seedling-RED STEM ?
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Red stalk is usually associated with stress to the plant , it's like an artery filling up and becoming hard. Give em a good water & B1 feeding.
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The_Spectre
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3/22/01 10:22 AM
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Re: NL#5 seedling-RED STEM ?
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Red stems on seedlings are a result of high PH usually....Plant the seed with the tip down. Marc is incorrect or it is a misprint. They will grow in spite of that treatment, not because of it....Ditch the superthrive at this early stage. It's a hormone and they do not need it. It's like giving steroids to a baby.
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luckman
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3/22/01 03:06 PM
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Re: NL#5 seedling-RED STEM ?
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Attached is a picture of what I was calling a 'red stem'. Its more like little red hairs on the stem than anything else. Is this what you describe?
Peace from Austin TX
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The_Spectre
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3/23/01 10:56 AM
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Re: NL#5 seedling-RED STEM ?
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That's a great picture. The plant looks great too. Very healthy.
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johnnyafghan
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3/23/01 12:23 PM
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Re: NL#5 seedling-RED STEM ?
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Can't see anything wrong with your plant. She looks real healthy to me.
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4free
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3/23/01 01:04 PM
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Re: NL#5 seedling-RED STEM ?
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Okay...I just wanted to clear a few things up...Over the years there has been so many sources declaring one way is better then another...I don't see it that way at all - its situational IMO!
If you germinate your seeds and there is a small white root tip BARELY emerging (or if you put the seed right in the ground without any root tip emerged at all - like in day 1-3 of the diagram), the root will naturally do a 180 degree turn "downwards"; so if you decide to plant your seeds this early in germination, then put the pointy end up so the root doesn't waist energy doing a "three-sixty" (I have dug up seeds just to test if they would do this and yes they sure do).
If you germinate for a little longer, the sprout will also grow longer! When you germinate to this point, one should put the root tip "down" as if the bean was already growing in this manner (the seed/sprout will look like day 3 - 7 on the diagram, but obviously won't be in the soil yet). If your are very observant you will notice that the pointy end of the seed is still in the opposite direction of the root growth thus the root has already done its "one-eighty."
How long you germinate and how you germinate is up to you...personally I germinate longer and put the root tip down as if it had already began growing in that fashion; however for over 2 years of my growing experience I planted "less-germinated" seeds, with pointy ends up with great sucess!
So essetinally IMO, it really depends on what stage your germinated bean is in! I'm sure there are a lot of variables involved with germination, but this is what I have found! I normally grow indica,= and I have no idea if this makes any difference but I strongly feel "this is the way it is" with germinating these mysterious cannabis seeds.
Since I'm so High right now, I can't for some reason suffieciently speak my mind on the subject so I will try and attach a diagram from an ancient book then may help. When this literature was released, planting with pointy end up was standard practice so just ignore the words declaring this method as the "right" way and concentrate on the picures which are fairly accurate.
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4free
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3/23/01 01:06 PM
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Re: NL#5 seedling-RED STEM ?
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Oh shit... I guess this wasn't really about germination... I guess I will post this for the newbies since I took it so seriously.
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hydrohippy2000
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3/23/01 04:57 PM
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Re: NL#5 seedling-RED STEM ?
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Great post anyway,I see you typed it all a 2nd time under it's own heading.Great for newbies and experienced growers too. The red stem on the seedlings (NL#5) apears to be genetic.The AK47xWW seedlings I also started all have otherwise normal stem color. The 1st NL#%,now 18 days old has started showing it's 3rd set of leaves,2 of the AK's also are at this stage.I'm giving the other 3,one more week to catch up a little(2nd set started)before I put 'em all in my drip system under the 400w MH........................ I thought this thread died almost 2 weeks ago. Good to see it's alive and well...PEACE
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luckman
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3/23/01 05:35 PM
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Re: NL#5 seedling-RED STEM ?
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well thanks! I'm calling her 'she' because shes so short and bushy, I cant imagine her being a male. Not that I would know. Thanks for the comments, I felt it was a good thing but having never seen another one before... :-)
LuckMan
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The_Spectre
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3/24/01 06:08 AM
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Re: NL#5 seedling-RED STEM ?
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Opinions don't have any basis in botany......
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